Yaron
Ezrahi argues that the current conflict has elements of a war, but
it is hard to define it as such. He points out that because some
Palestinians in civilian clothes are armed, and often mixed within
the unarmed civilian population, it is often difficult to identify
the combatants. This ambiguity then provides a cover for the Israelis
to commit war crimes. ìThe difference between this and the first
Intifada is that now it has become much more ambiguous as to whether
the Israeli police are facing civilians,î he says.
Q:
Is this a war?
The current clashes between the Israelis and Palestinians is partly
an anti-colonial war. It is also a struggle between two peoples
on drawing the map of their territory. In that sense it is not so
anti-colonial, but a peoples war. However, it is also a war
in the international communication arena between claims of victimhood
by both sides.
Can
you form standards that can be applied blindly to actions regardless
of who are the actors? Killing civilians deliberately is certainly
eligible for serious consideration as a war crime. But so is the
use of innocent and frightened civilians as cover for irregulars
shooting from their homes. If this killing of the young boy in Gaza
is not an accident, then it is a violation of the rules of war.
But what do you do about the fact that Palestinian spokesman consider
the live coverage of this event as the most potent weapon in their
hands in the war of public opinion? On paper the Israeli Army is
far stronger, but in many situations and in the communications war
it may actually be the weaker party.
Q:
Perhaps we can look at some of the important issues that have emerged
so far in which the Geneva Conventions are relevant.
Part of the problem is identifying the combatants. What are the
identities of the combatants? Both sides have this problem, although
theres more fluidity on the Palestinian side. But the Israeli
side is very complicated as well, especially if you consider the
settlers. The settlers are threatened by Palestinians. But they
are colonizers. Does this mean that a Palestinian deliberately killing
them is less of a war crime? And what is the status of Palestinian
policeman who is usually in charge of keeping order at home, but
at a certain moment slips into civilian clothes and shoots Israelis?
Q:
And in regard to Israeli soldiers firing on unarmed civilians?
Take the guidelines given to the Israeli border police. You are
allowed to open fire on unarmed civilians if you feel your life
is threatened. If you are a rightwing settler who looks at a Palestinian
as a monster, you might shoot at anybody within two meters. If you
are the nephew of (noted peace activist) Yossi Sarid and know Palestinians
as persons and not as stereotypes, you may not shoot anyone at all.
The guidelines are open to too many subjective interpretations.
I dont see here anyway to deal with them except case by case,
which is not good enough when we have large-scale operations like
this.
But
what is the alternative? If you want to work on that issue, you
need to give sufficient working definitions of war crimes to handle
such ambiguous situations which are the bulk of the events.
The danger of this is that the ambiguities can serve as a cover
for war crimes and they can be used also to direct misplaced accusations
of war crimes. Each side is relatively safe under the screen of
ambiguity.
Q:
In cases where you do have gunfire, is there disproportionate return
of fire from the Israeli army?
There are definitely situations where there is disproportionate
return of fire. But you must examine this. If this is a war, why
do we have such strong fire on empty houses? Why are generals trying
so hard to convince us that this is a war? Maybe because they are
not convinced. Its very ambiguous. There are cases where Israelis
shoot civilians who do not threaten their lives. This is a crime,
but, again, we need to look at these cases individually. When Israeli
policemen face a crowd they no longer can be sure that they arent
also facing armed Palestinian policemen out of uniform. The difference
between this and the first Intifada is that now it has become much
more ambiguous as to whether the Israeli police are facing civilians.
The
mixture of Palestinian civilians with police complicates this. If
an Israeli is shot by a Palestinian, the Israeli army will be much
less restrained in shooting back. In Beit Jalla two people told
me that the Tanzim [irregular Palestinian forces] invaded their
houses without permission and used them to fire against Israeli
civilian houses in Gilo. Then the Israeli army shot at those houses.
Given you had casualties on both sides, how would you classify this
event? For Palestinians, it is a war against an enemy. It is also
partly a civil war. And it is a revolt. It involves actions organized
by the Palestinian Authority and terrorist actions directed both
by the Palestinian Authority and organizations not completely under
its control which sometimes actually try to undermine it. You have
hundreds of different fronts so, again, this is a very complicated
situation to analyze.
Q:
And the accusations by Palestinians of collective punishment?
With collective punishment we also have a problem of definition.
How would you classify a curfew when you can see: a) elements of
attempts to head off an expected terrorist attack; b) an attempt
to prevent Palestinian workers to come to Israel after a terror
attack inside Israel to prevent the situation where they are attacked
by Israeli fanatics; c) a curfew in order to exert economic pressure
on the Palestinian Authority because it continues to release Islamic
activists from prison. Is economic pressure designed to diminish
violence a war crime because it is also collective punishment? Do
you categorize that situation according motives, consequences or
both? Again, an organization like the Crimes of War Project will
have to be very careful in assessing such situations.
Q:
Can the introduction of international observers help clarify some
of these complexities?
The sending of international observers may have a positive effect.
Just the thought of them around could lead both sides to change
their actions.
Q:
Are there any other final points regarding international humanitarian
law?
It is important to distinguish between the general classification
of this conflict and the means used. They are not always harmonious.
For example, an anti-colonial war, which is understood as a liberation
war, could involve massacres that could be classified as war crimes.
This happened in 1948 on both sides. War can have moral cause, but
the means used can be a violation of international law or even war
crimes. One can say the war on the side of colonialists is utterly
indefensible, and morally condemnable, but the actual operation
may not necessarily be classifiable as a war crime.
Yaron
Ezrahi is Professor of Political Science at Hebrew University of
Jerusalem and Senior Fellow at the Israeli Democracy Institute.
He received his Ph.D. from Harvard University and is the author
of Rubber Bullets: Power and Conscience in Modern Israel.
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